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How and why Star Promenade lost its own number - and why this is a big blunder.
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Wie und warum Star Promenade seine Nummer verlor - und weshalb dies großer Blödsinn ist.
Von: <MailCALLERLAB at aol.com> An: <MailCALLERLAB at aol.com>; <MikeCaller at aol.com>; <sqemup at netzero.net> Betreff: HO LOG 06-0215-001 (ACTION)(2006 MS Review & 6 MS Items)(2) Datum: Donnerstag, 16. Februar 2006 15:49 Hi Mainstream Committee, This is an ACTION Required message for HO LOG 06-0215-001 (2006 MS Review & 6 MS Items) Cutoff date for ACTION for this HO LOG is 24 MAR 05, however, you are encouraged to respond earlier. The purpose of this HO LOG is for the Mainstream Committee to provide input for the 2006 Mainstream program Triennial Review and for the Mainstream Committee to VOTE on the six items which were presented and discussed at the Mainstream meeting at the 2005 CALLERLAB Convention. (snip) 4. Promenade Listing: Motion: A Motion has been made to make the following change as a way to be more concise and consistent with what is being danced and reduce the list by one call (Star Promenade) as follows: This would change the current listing of: PROMENADE/SINGLE FILE PROMENADE; A. COUPLES (FULL, ½, 3/4) B. SINGLE FILE PROMENADE The new listing would be: PROMENADE FAMILY A. COUPLES (FULL, ½, ¾) B. SINGLE FILE PROMENADE C. STAR PROMENADE D. REVERSE PROMENADE Pro Statement: This is just a matter of semantics. It would merely list all the promenades together in a more concise way. This also adds the usage of Reverse Promenade, currently not on the list, in italics to defer teaching to a later date Con Statement: This change removes a number from the list while replacing it with a letter. It only shuffles the deck, but does not change the cards in the deck. Impact: This would merely list all the Promenades as a Family and bring the call Star Promenade into this family instead of it's own listing. (/snip) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Von: "Karl-Heinrich Fischle" <squarekopp at gmx.de> An: <mikecaller at aol.com>; <sqemup at netzero.net> Betreff: Re: MS 2006 Review Datum: Sonntag, 19. Februar 2006 22:02 (snip) 4. Promenade Listing: Motion: A Motion has been made to make the following change as a way to be more concise and consistent with what is being danced and reduce the list by one call (Star Promenade) as follows: This would change the current listing of: PROMENADE/SINGLE FILE PROMENADE; A. COUPLES (FULL, ½, 3/4) B. SINGLE FILE PROMENADE The new listing would be: PROMENADE FAMILY A. COUPLES (FULL, ½, ¾) B. SINGLE FILE PROMENADE C. STAR PROMENADE D. REVERSE PROMENADE (A) (B) I Do Not Approve the above Motion X (C) My comment: For me, a Star Promenade is more a Star than a Promenade. (But I would accept Reverse (resp. Wrong Way) Promenade added to the list) (/snip) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Von: "Karl-Heinrich Fischle" <squarekopp at gmx.de> An: <mikecaller at aol.com>; <sqemup at netzero.net> Cc: <Kenny at kennyreese.de> Betreff: Re: MS 2006 Review (Star Promenade) Datum: Dienstag, 14. März 2006 22:07 >>> Motion: A Motion has been made to make the following change as a way to be more concise and consistent with what is being danced and reduce the list by one call (Star Promenade) as follows: This would change the current listing of: PROMENADE/SINGLE FILE PROMENADE; A. COUPLES (FULL, ½, 3/4) B. SINGLE FILE PROMENADE The new listing would be: PROMENADE FAMILY A. COUPLES (FULL, ½, ¾) B. SINGLE FILE PROMENADE C. STAR PROMENADE D. REVERSE PROMENADE <<< I voted against this, for choreographical reasons. After thinking about the consequences, I WARN against it, for technical reasons: - All materials for teaching the Mainstream Program would need to be rewritten and reprinted. - Every caller who organizes his choreo according the MS list (me, for one) would have to rework all his files. - Any reference to a list number (e.g. MS 53) would become ambiguous. This would arouse a lot of ill feelings against CALLERLAB, for absolutely NO benefits. Yours squarely, Heiner Fischle Hannover, Germany www.heinerfischle.de - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Von: <MailCALLERLAB at aol.com> An: <MailCALLERLAB at aol.com> Cc: <AEDCLAB at aol.com> Betreff: HO LOG 06-0525-005 (ACTION)(MS Review Ballot) (Pt2) Datum: Freitag, 26. Mai 2006 15:58 Hi Mainstream Committee Members, This is an ACTION Required message for HO LOG 06-0525-005 (ACTION)(MS Review Ballot) Cutoff date for ACTION for this HO LOG is 30 JUN 06 (snip) 5) Promenade Listing Discussion: A motion was made to make the following change as a way to be more concise and consistent with what is being danced and reduce the list by one call (Star Promenade) as follows: This would change the current listing of: PROMENADE/ SINGLE FILE PROMENADE; A. COUPLES (FULL, ½, ¾ ) B. SINGLE FILE PROMENADE The new listing would be: PROMENADE A. COUPLES (FULL, ½ ¾) B. SINGLE FILE PROMENADE C. STAR PROMENADE D. WRONG WAY PROMENADE (/snip) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Von: "Karl-Heinrich Fischle" <squarekopp at gmx.de> An: <mainstream at ecta.de> Betreff: MS-Review Star Promenade Datum: Samstag, 27. Mai 2006 22:06 In the Ballot for the triennial review of the Mainstream Program, it is proposed to deplete Star Promenade of its own number, and list it under the Promenade Family. If you are on this committee, please vote NO! for these reasons: - Star Promenade is more a Star than a Promenade. - If Left Allemande is worth a separate number besides Arm Turns, and Half Tag is worth its own number, than Star Promenade merits its own number even more. - This would affect 60 numbers on the MS list. All materials about the MS program must be rewritten. Every caller who organizes his/her files according to the MS list must rework all his files. Every reference to a call number (e.g. MS 53) would become ambiguous. And all this trouble for absolutely NO benefits. For heaven's sake, stop this !"§$%&/()=? (The non-text portion of this message would sound insulting if readable.) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Auf dem Stimmzettel für die dreijährliche Überarbeitung des Mainstream Programms wird vorgeschlagen, die Nummer für Star Promenade zu löschen und Star Promenade zur Promenade Familie zu zählen. Wer im CALLERLAB MS Committee ist, bitte stimmt dagegen, aus folgenden Gründen: - Star Promenade ist mehr ein Stern als eine Promenade. - Wenn Allemande Left eine eigene Nummer wert ist neben Arm Turns, und Half Tag neben Tag the Line, dann hat Star Promenade noch mehr Anspruch auf eine eigne Nummer. - Dies würde 60 Nummern auf der MS Liste ändern. Alle Materialien für Mainstream müßten überarbeitet werden. Alle Caller, die ihre Unterlagen nach der MS Liste sortiert haben, müßten diese überarbeiten. Alle Hinweise auf Callnummern (z.B. MS 53) würden mehrdeutig. Und der ganze Aufwand für nix und wieder nix. Um Himmels Willen, verhindert diesen !"§$%&/()=? (Der unleserliche Ausdruck wäre in Klartext eine schwere Beleidigung.) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Yours squarely, Heiner Fischle, der Squarekopp Hannover, Germany www.heinerfischle.de - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Von: "Karl-Heinrich Fischle" <squarekopp at gmx.de> An: <mikecaller at aol.com> Cc: <sqemup at netzero.net> Betreff: Re: 2006 TRIENNIAL REVIEW / Mainstream Committee Datum: Samstag, 27. Mai 2006 22:07 2006 TRIENNIAL REVIEW Mainstream Committee (snip) 5) Promenade Listing Discussion: A motion was made to make the following change as a way to be more concise and consistent with what is being danced and reduce the list by one call (Star Promenade) as follows: This would change the current listing of: PROMENADE/ SINGLE FILE PROMENADE; A. COUPLES (FULL, ½, ¾ ) B. SINGLE FILE PROMENADE The new listing would be: PROMENADE A. COUPLES (FULL, ½ ¾) B. SINGLE FILE PROMENADE C. STAR PROMENADE D. WRONG WAY PROMENADE Leave Promenade listing as is: Yes _____ _____ Change Promenade to the new listing above For heaven's sake, NO! (/snip) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Von: <squarekopp at gmx.de> An: <sd-callers at all8.com> Betreff: MS-Review Star Promenade Datum: Samstag, 27. Mai 2006 23:18 In the Ballot for the triennial review of the Mainstream Program, it is proposed to deplete Star Promenade of its own number, and list it under the Promenade Family. If you are on this committee, please vote NO! for these reasons: - Star Promenade is more a Star than a Promenade. - If Left Allemande is worth a separate number besides Arm Turns, and Half Tag is worth its own number, than Star Promenade merits its own number even more. - This would affect 60 numbers on the MS list. All materials about the MS program must be rewritten. Every caller who organizes his/her files according to the MS list must rework all his files. Every reference to a call number (e.g. MS 53) would become ambiguous. And all this trouble for absolutely NO benefits. For heaven's sake, stop this !"§$%&/()=? Yours squarely, Heiner Fischle, der Squarekopp Hannover, Germany www.heinerfischle.de (The non-text portion of this message would sound insulting if readable.) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Von: "Karl-Heinrich Fischle" <squarekopp at gmx.de> An: <mikecaller at aol.com>; <sqemup at netzero.net> Betreff: MS-Review Star Promenade Datum: Dienstag, 30. Mai 2006 22:47 FYI I posted the following to sd-callers at all8.com: In the Ballot for the triennial review of the Mainstream Program, it is proposed to deplete Star Promenade of its own number, and list it under the Promenade Family. If you are on this committee, please vote NO! for these reasons: - Star Promenade is more a Star than a Promenade. - If Left Allemande is worth a separate number besides Arm Turns, and Half Tag is worth its own number, than Star Promenade merits its own number even more. - This would affect 60 numbers on the MS list. All materials about the MS program must be rewritten. Every caller who organizes his/her files according to the MS list must rework all his files. Every reference to a call number (e.g. MS 53) would become ambiguous. And all this trouble for absolutely NO benefits. For heaven's sake, stop this !"§$%&/()=? Yours squarely, Heiner Fischle, der Squarekopp Hannover, Germany www.heinerfischle.de (The non-text portion of this message would sound insulting if readable.) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Von: "Karl-Heinrich Fischle" <squarekopp at gmx.de> An: <CALLERLAB at aol.com> Betreff: MS-Review Star Promenade Datum: Dienstag, 30. Mai 2006 22:47 Dear Jerry Reed, would it be possible to mail the following to the members of the MS committee: In the Ballot for the triennial review of the Mainstream Program, it is proposed to deplete Star Promenade of its own number, and list it under the Promenade Family. Please vote NO! for these reasons: - Star Promenade is more a Star than a Promenade. - If Left Allemande is worth a separate number besides Arm Turns, and Half Tag is worth its own number, than Star Promenade merits its own number even more. - This would affect 60 numbers on the MS list. All materials about the MS program must be rewritten. Every caller who organizes his/her files according to the MS list must rework all his files. Every reference to a call number (e.g. MS 53) would become ambiguous. And all this trouble for absolutely NO benefits. Yours squarely, Heiner Fischle, der Squarekopp Hannover, Germany www.heinerfischle.de - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Von: <CALLERLAB at aol.com> An: <squarekopp at gmx.de> Cc: <CALLERLAB at aol.com>; <AEDCLAB at aol.com>; <MikeCaller at aol.com>; "Lanny Weaklend" <sqemup at netzero.net>; <LKDAVN at aol.com> Betreff: Re: HO LOG 06-0525-005 (MS Review Ballot) Datum: Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2006 18:07 Hi Heiner, By copy of this message I am sending your message to Mike Seastrom & Lanny Weaklend, however, since the vote has already started it is not appropriate to send discussion messages to the group. Thanx, Jerry - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Von: <MailCALLERLAB at aol.com> An: <MailCALLERLAB at aol.com> Betreff: HO LOG 06-0525-005 (Final Report)(MS Review Ballot)(Pt2) Datum: Sonntag, 16. Juli 2006 17:58 Hi Mainstream Committee Members, This is the Final Report message for HO LOG 06-0525-005 (MS Review Ballot) Cutoff date for ACTION for this HO LOG was 30 JUN 06 The purpose of this HO LOG was for the Mainstream Committee to VOTE on items relating to the 2006 Triennial Review of the Mainstream Program. Printed below and attached in a PDF file is the Final Report from Mike Seastrom, Committee Chairman. PLEASE DO NOT PUBLISH THIS INFORMATION UNTIL IT IS PUBLISHED BY THE CALLERLAB OFFICE. Thanx, Jerry Reed Executive Director CALLERLAB Here is the report from Mike: CALLERLAB The International Association of Square Dance Callers 467 Forrest Avenue, Suite 118 Cocoa, FL 32922 TEL: 321-639-0039 FAX: 321-639-0851 Email: CALLERLAB at aol.com On the Web: www.callerlab.org DATE: July 12, 2006 TO: Mainstream Definitions Ad-Hoc Committee Members FROM Jerry Reed, Executive Director SUBJECT: HO LOG 06-0525-005 (Final report) (MS Review Ballot) Hi Mainstream Committee, The following report is from Mike Seastrom, Mainstream Committee Chairman. This is the report of the results of the voting by the Mainstream Committee on the 2006 Mainstream Program Review. Please do not publish these results until the official announcement is made by the Home Office in a Press Release or other official announcement. We thank each of you who took the time to respond. Printed below are the results of this HO LOG. Thank you, Jerry L. Reed Executive Committee For Mike Seastrom (snip) G. Promenade Listing Leave Promenade Listing as is: 44 votes yes (30%) 96 votes no (66%) 6 votes abstain (4%) Change Promenade Listing: 94 votes yes (67%) 42 votes no (30%) 5 votes abstain (3%) Action to be taken - Promenade Listing will be changed (/snip) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Von: "Karl-Heinrich Fischle" <squarekopp at gmx.de> An: <mikecaller at aol.com>; <sqemup at netzero.net> Cc: <MailCALLERLAB at aol.com> (BC Clark Baker) >>> G. Promenade Listing Leave Promenade Listing as is: 44 votes yes (30%) 96 votes no (66%) 6 votes abstain (4%) Change Promenade Listing: 94 votes yes (67%) 42 votes no (30%) 5 votes abstain (3%) Action to be taken - Promenade Listing will be changed <<< Does this mean that Star Promenade will be depleted of its number, and listed under the Promenade family? Is there any possibility to stop this blatant nonsense? Yours squarely, Heiner Fischle Hannover, Germany - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Von: <MikeCaller at aol.com> An: <squarekopp at gmx.de> Cc: <CALLERLAB at aol.com>; <DANACALLERLAB at aol.com>; <LKDAVN at aol.com>; <sqemup at netzero.net>; <MikeCaller at aol.com> Betreff: Re: HO LOG 06-0525-005 (Final Report) Datum: Donnerstag, 20. Juli 2006 07:50 Dear Heiner, Thanks for your email and for your concern. The preliminary ballot came out very early this year and there was plenty of discussion at the convention. We even polled our Overseas Members through the Overseas Advisory Committee and invited their input. The vote was a very solid majority for changing the listings on Promenade and Alamo Style and we never received any negative feedback except for your email the end of May this year. While I can certainly see your point of view and I can personally live with it either way, the majority of the Mainstream Committee voted for change and to change the listings on those two items. I certainly respect your opinion and your contributions "throughout the activity" over the years, and most of all appreciate the passion in your point of view, but we're about following and supporting the opinions of the majority whether we personally agree or not, so the decision must stand. I don't think the impact on the dancers will be an issue. Thanks so much Heiner for caring! Sincerely, Mike Seastrom Mainstream Committee Chairman - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Von: "Karl-Heinrich Fischle" <squarekopp at gmx.de> An: <mikecaller at aol.com> Betreff: Sorry to come back Datum: Samstag, 22. Juli 2006 00:42 Mike, thank you very much for your kind letter. However, you wrote: >>> The vote was a very solid majority for changing the listings on Promenade and Alamo Style and we never received any negative feedback except for your email the end of May this year. <<< You should have recieved the following mail from Mid-March: * * * * * * * * Von: "Karl-Heinrich Fischle" <squarekopp at gmx.de> An: <mikecaller at aol.com>; <sqemup at netzero.net> Cc: <Kenny at kennyreese.de> Betreff: Re: MS 2006 Review (Star Promenade) Datum: Dienstag, 14. März 2006 22:07 >>> Motion: A Motion has been made to make the following change as a way to be more concise and consistent with what is being danced and reduce the list by one call (Star Promenade) as follows: This would change the current listing of: PROMENADE/SINGLE FILE PROMENADE; A. COUPLES (FULL, ½, 3/4) B. SINGLE FILE PROMENADE The new listing would be: PROMENADE FAMILY A. COUPLES (FULL, ½, ¾) B. SINGLE FILE PROMENADE C. STAR PROMENADE D. REVERSE PROMENADE <<< I voted against this, for choreographical reasons. After thinking about the consequences, I WARN against it, for technical reasons: - All materials for teaching the Mainstream Program would need to be rewritten and reprinted. - Every caller who organizes his choreo according the MS list (me, for one) would have to rework all his files. - Any reference to a list number (e.g. MS 53) would become ambiguous. This would arouse a lot of ill feelings against CALLERLAB, for absolutely NO benefits. Yours squarely, Heiner Fischle Hannover, Germany www.heinerfischle.de * * * * * * * * Obviously this point was not discussed at the CALLERLAB meeting. I wish there was a way for email discussion among the committee (like there is one among the MS subcommittee at ECTA). When I joined the MS committe, I warned that I would be a kassandric nuisance. It seems, this comes true. Yours squarely, Heiner Fischle Hannover, Germany www.heinerfischle.de P.S. I see this as an attempt to cheat in the same cheap way as the ACA list does. (Hooray, we shortened the list by one number!) This is incompatible with the dignity of CALLERLAB, and it hurts my pride. H.Fs. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Von: "Karl-Heinrich Fischle" <squarekopp at gmx.de> An: <mainstream at ecta.de> Betreff: MS Review Datum: Samstag, 22. Juli 2006 00:40 Hi all, every caller who organizes his/her choreo files according to the numbers on the CALLERLAB MS list, has a nice job on hand this Summer. Star Promenade (formerly #11) will be listed in the Promenade Family. That means every call from #12 to #69 will come down one number. MS 53 will become MS 52, etc. Since you will have to rework all your files, you may as well reevaluate them. This is not yet officially published, but you can start to plan your work. Yours squarely, Heiner Fischle - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Von: "Kenny Reese" <Kenny at kennyreese.de> An: "'Karl-Heinrich Fischle'" <squarekopp at gmx.de> Betreff: AW: MS Review Datum: Samstag, 22. Juli 2006 08:45 Hi Heiner, You should not have put this email out because the information was for committee members information only and not for official release. As was stated on the mail to the committee members. And then you only gave part of the information which could cause even more work for any caller that jumps on the change as you mentioned and does it very quickly. They would have to go back and re-work their files again when the official mail comes out. Kenny - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:37:33 +0200 From: squarekopp at gmx.de Subject: Re: [sd-callers] Note Services To: sd-callers at all8.com >>> BTW, Callerlab is not supposed to compete with its members so, in general, Callerlab can't put out a note service. Perhaps if all other note services have stopped, Callerlab could pick up the slack and offer it as another benefit of membership. <<< Oh, Callerlab does enough to keep its members busy. E.g. this Fall, every caller who organizes his/her choreo according to the numbers on the MS list, will have to rework all these files. Star Promenade will be listed under the Promenade Family, and no longer hold a number of its own. Hooray, we shortened the list by one number! Heiner Fischle Hannover, Germany www.heinerfischle.de still member of Callerlab, no longer proud of it. off line during this weekend - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Von: "Karl-Heinrich Fischle" <squarekopp at gmx.de> An: <dance48caller at aol.com> Betreff: Europena Convention etc. Datum: Samstag, 22. Juli 2006 21:38 Hallo Al, hallo Carole, how are you doing? At the moment, probably England is not quite as hot as Germany. I will come to Hemel-Hempstead within a fortnight. I registered because they promised a hall for MS53, and I wanted to support that. But now they reduced the number of halls, and there will be just a Hall of MS53 and MS69 alternating tips. But MS53 will become MS52. At the triennial MS review, CALLERLAB decided to list Star Pomenade (#11) under the Promenade Family. Consequently all the following basics will come down one number. All materials about MS must be rewritten and reprinted, and every caller who organizes his/her choreo according to the CL numbering will have to rework these files. For what benefit? In my eyes it is an attempt to cheat in the same cheap way as the ACA list does. Hooray, we shortened the list by one number! I did what I could to prevent this blatant nonsense, and made myself a kassandric nuisance, but to no avail. However, not all the numbers will change. Spin Chain Thru will be brought back to MS, so at he end some basics will keep their numbering. By and by, CALLERLAB becomes the laughing stock of square dancing. All the best to you, Heiner Fischle www.heinerfischle.de - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Von: <Dance48caller at aol.com> An: <squarekopp at gmx.de> Betreff: Re: Europena Convention etc. Datum: Sonntag, 23. Juli 2006 20:30 Hello Heiner, Thanks for your letter, with your news. I am sorry that we will not see you at the Euro Convention as we have to be at a wedding in France and won't be able to get back in time. I agree with your views about Callerlab, and the effect on all our work plans this irrelevant action will have. Many years ago I joined Callerlab and went to one of the conventions because I was constantly told that the only way to have your opinions listened to was to be on the inside. Wrong, after several frustrating years I concluded that they will only give your views any credence is for you to have an American passport. It is their dancing and no one else is competent to criticise. So I quit and saved my self a lot of time, energy, and money. Further my home programme isn't any the worse off for making that decision. I mentioned your comments to our News & Views editor and suggested that we print you letter about the Euro Convention and Callerlab on a name and address supplied basis, just to save you any possible difficulties with ECTA colleagues Please let me know soonest if you agree. Thanks again AL - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Von: "Karl-Heinrich Fischle" <squarekopp at gmx.de> An: <Dance48caller at aol.com> Betreff: Re: Re: Europena Convention etc. Datum: Montag, 24. Juli 2006 23:00 -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > I mentioned your comments to our News & Views editor and suggested that we > print your letter about the Euro Convention and Callerlab on a name and address > supplied basis, just to save you any possible difficulties with ECTA colleagues > > Please let me know soonest if you agree. > > Thanks again > > AL Yes please. If there was a hailstorm of protests before it is published, perhaps Callerlab might reconsider this decision. If the hailstorm comes afterwards, at least I would have the sad satisfaction of Kassandra. Yours squarely, Heiner Fischle - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Von: "Karl-Heinrich Fischle" <squarekopp at gmx.de> An: <ContraCarol at aol.com> Betreff: MS Review Datum: Dienstag, 25. Juli 2006 22:20 Hi Carol, the Callerlab MS committee decided to list Star Promenade under the Promenade Family. That means, that all basics fom #12 to #69 will come down one number *. All materials about the MS program must be rewritten and reprinted, and every caller who organizes his/her choreo files according to the CL numbering will have to rework them. I warned the ECTA MS Subcommitte about this, and got rapped over my knuckles by Kenny for coming out prematurely with this information. I wrote Al Green - with some more meat about my feelings - and he wants my mail published in News & Views. If there was a hailstorm of protests before the publication, CL might reconsider this decision. If there comes a hailstorm afterwards, it only can add to the confusion - and give me the sad satisfaction of Kassandra. At the CL Convention, there was a long discussion whether a clockwise promenade should be named Wrong Way Promenade or Reverse Promenade. About this matter, everyone was competent and had an opinion. There was no discussion about renumbering the whole list; for I am the only member of the CL MS Committe who can do this kind of math, and I was not present. Now you may ask: since I was not present, how can I know? Well, I am reading a collection of Sherlock Holmes stories at the moment, and apply some of his principles to this matter. I lay a bet that my description is correct. * Some of last basics on the list will keep their number, because Spin Chain Thru will return to the MS list. And if the Plus committe wants to get rid of Fan The Top, this lost child may come back to the family too. See you soon, Heiner still member of CALLERLAB, no longer proud of it. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Von: "Karl-Heinrich Fischle" <squarekopp at gmx.de> An: <MailCALLERLAB at aol.com> Cc: <MikeCaller at aol.com>; <sqemup at netzero.net> Betreff: Star Promenade Datum: Donnerstag, 10. August 2006 21:57 Dear Jerry, if you want to, you may print the following in the next issue of Direction: The CL MS Committee decided to shorten the Mainstream List by 1 number. How? Star Promenade loses its number, and is listed under the Promenade Family. For my European eyes, this is an attempt to cheat in the same cheap way as the ACA list does, and is incompatible with the dignity of CALLERLAB. Moreover, since most numbers on the list change, all materials about Mainstream must be rewritten and reprinted. Every caller who organizes his files according the CALLERLAB numbering will have to rework them. Any reference to a call number (e.g. MS 53) becomes ambiguous. On my protests came the excuse that "the impact on the dancers will not be an issue". Very true. I cannot imagine any caller to teach Star Promenade before the Stars, even if it is listed three families earlier. Therefore once again: Why make changes which cause only trouble and confusion? Yours squarely, Heiner Fischle Hannover, Germany still member of CALLERLAB no longer proud of it - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Published 2006-08-10 / Heiner Fischle, Hannover, Germany |